Once upon a time, Robert Nichols <rnicholsNOSPAM@xxxxxxxxxxx> said: > OK, I ran my own test doing an rpmbuild of a custom kernel. This is being pitched as a "big gain for the desktop user". How many desktop users build a kernel? Where is the gain in the typical desktop usage pattern? Someone said that Linux only follows POSIX where it makes sense, but when has Linux followed POSIX for years and _then_ turned away? How many users truly see a security gain (real difference, not theoretical) out of SELinux? Why isn't that turned off for that last ounce of performance? I've spent a lot more time having to figure out what SELinux was doing and how to fix problems. I use atime regularly, whether when using mutt or looking for what files have been accessed (to decide what is being used, what can be deleted, etc.). Okay, so there's a hack to make mutt work; how does it affect performance? stat() is about as simple as it gets for checking when a mailbox has been updated vs. when it was read. What about bash (and the other shells) that print a "you've got new mail" message? What else is there in the distribution that uses atime (has anyone checked)? Sure, I can re-enable it on my systems, or I can go use something else that doesn't randomly disable standard Unix behavior because it is inconvenient. -- Chris Adams <cmadams@xxxxxxxxxx> Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list