On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 07:47:01PM +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > On 03.08.2007 19:13, Jesse Keating wrote: > > On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 17:57:46 +0200 > > Thorsten Leemhuis <fedora@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> As kmods are on the way out in > >> general in Fedora (which is something I in parts agree with) it's even > >> more unlikely now. > > kmods as separate packages is what's hopefully on the way out. > > As I said, I agree in parts with it -- I'm these days against having > them in the "Fedora Everything" spin. But I still think we should have a > place for kernel-module packages in the Fedora project. A kind of > "alphaworks", "testing kitchen" or something like that for this and > other stuff that's not in shape for Fedora proper (or rawhide) yet -- > with a big fat warning sign "use on your own risk" "this *will* eat > babies" on the front of course. Sure, some people won't read that, but > that's not enough reasons to *not* do it IMHO. It's *essential* that Fedora provide a mechanism for this. To not do so makes the distribution *less free* not more so. FLOSS is so great because of the person choice that it imparts to users - the freedom to do what I, you, or they, want to do with a system. It's not your place, or mine to say what a user should or should not do on their own system. Fedora should perhaps not ship kmod packages, but there should be a process, there should be a mechanism, and in fact, it should be extended to include online automated updates and various other capabilities missing right now. Think about why the upstream Linux kernel didn't kill off non-GPL exported symbols (though I don't want to turn this into a binary driver driver discussion per se. everything I'm talking about applies also to non-non-GPL drivers) in the end. User choice. Quite frankly (from my person viewpoint), if a user wants to install a proprietary graphics driver on their system, I think that should be their call. I don't do it myself, and that's my call to make for myself also. Let each person decide how to live their life :-) Jon. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
