On Sat, 2007-07-21 at 16:23 +0200, nodata wrote: > url please. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=216056 But what's the use? Notice how much work I put into reporting the bug properly, and what did I get? "Go try the latest ALSA" Well gee, thanks! I could have done do without the bug report! Not even a binary RPMs was provided to test (which for me is a showstopper as I keep my system strictly rpm-based). A complete waste of time that report. Not even sure what the purpose of these reports is when the canned answer we get is: * bug report # please? followed right away (after bug is filed) by: * go bother upstream, we just package this thing An infallible 1-2 that leaves the report feeling hopeless and with a distinct impression of massive time wastage. And even if I did all the work of getting latest ALSA and compiling it, and testing it, etc. what would have been the use when a week later it broke again?!? And again, and again, and again, etc ... It seemed to me that nobody really cared about working sound, so why do all the song and dance, just to have something to fill my time with? This is asking way too much from users. How much time, energy, and patience do we expect them to have? -- Dimi Paun <dimi@xxxxxxxxxxx> Lattica, Inc. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list