>Keep in mind that updates now encompass Core/Extras and *new* added >packages. A better question would be to ask, of the packages users >actually have INSTALLED are updates really churning faster now than >before? Yes they are. Here's a couple packages that should be rock solid steady that are being updated *way* to much: xinetd, tcp_wrappers, bind. I can cite more, but these should be easily verifiable. The fact that there is a mad rush to pump out updates says something about the process is broken. Either the freeze did not let packages that had real problems get fixed, we are not doing a good enough QA job in rawhide, or people's standards have lowered as to when to do a release for a stable series. >Presto would be the next important step to formalize to make the >updating process more tolerable to users. Presto will help download speed, but we still have a problem where too many updates are being issued in a stable release. Seriously, we need a speedbump to force some restraint if we don't slow it down. All these updates can cause a package to get out of sync with SE Linux, which then causes us to rush out a new SE Linux policy package. -Steve ____________________________________________________________________________________ The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list