Le jeudi 24 mai 2007 à 17:05 -0400, David Zeuthen a écrit : > On Thu, 2007-05-24 at 22:44 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > The only recurrent complaint about our bootloader is people who don't > > care about it are forced to pay attention due to our current use of > > flashy vga-16 background. > > > > This can be solved by bios-like black & white plain text camouflage. > > > > What additionnal purpose removing the grub text altogether or killing > > the grub timeout window serves, appart from making various user > > categories miserable? (We've already established some posters do not > > care about them overmuch. That's not a valid technical argument) > > We're discussing defaults here. One camp wants to get rid of eye-sore > known as the boot loader screen which you can do just by un-theming it > because many end users don't or can't use it [1]. That's your personal interpretation The same people don't or can't use BIOS output, and they don't reject it. > Anyway, for the server spin you'd default to > showing the bootloader screen; server people have many tools & infrastructure and wouldn't care a lot about a stupid default. They'd just kickstart the right one. > for the desktop (or dare I say "Fedora > for Human Beings" spin? [2]) spin you wouldn't show it. Desktop folks need it to access their windows game partition and legacy un-backuped data > [1] : and to some people, it makes a ton more sense to configure boot > options via a dedicated UI (e.g. s-c-bootloader) in the desktop session > because that's accessible (in the a11y sense), translatable, support > complex scripts / glyphs and reachable via VNC. For most people having to configure anything in a dedicated UI is way worse than a system that just takes care of itself like grub does -- Nicolas Mailhot
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