I just installed test4 and notice Wireshark was not available (not even as an option) but tcpdump was installed by default... that is totally wrong.. tshark (the non-gui version of wireshark) should be installed by default with the option installed the gui (as it was in FC6) and then make tcpdump the optional install since at this point its pretty much brain dead wrt to later protocols (ala nfsv4)... steved. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list