On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 13:12 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > Quoting the first paragraph of my mail, which contains the real message: > "I'm getting very tired of these generalism's of you. Most of us are not just > volunteers, but even hard working volunteers. Terms like packaging monkeys, and > dumping, are not nice descriptions of, and show no respect for, all the hard > working people behind Fedora." Please don't make assumptions about whom I respect. The inference you have drawn is simply wrong. > But as I tried to already make clear by quoting the first paragraph of my > previous mail. The SELinux guidelines is not why I responded, the reason I > responded was the tone of the mail, and more general the tone of your mails in > general. Please quit calling valuable volunteer contributers as "package > monkeys", and stop accusing them of "dumping stuff onto other people". I can just about deal with the fact that some people are thin-skinned enough that they choose to take offence at the term 'packagemonkey' even though I've never used it (to my knowledge) to refer to any _specific_ person other than myself. I think those people should grow up and stop being so quick to take offence, and I think they're part of the diseased and evil culture of political correctness which blights our society -- but I try not to be too harsh when they whine about it. As I said, I'll use a different term if someone can think of anything as succinct. It's certainly not a term which implies disrespect. It's a term I apply to myself, and it's a term I would apply to others I respect too -- but only if I respect them _enough_ that I trust them not to take gratuitous offence at it. :) Over the years, I have been _massively_ impressed by some people who meet the 'packagemonkey' description -- with their willingness and ability to embrace tasks which are beyond their (initial) capabilities, and the speed at which they learn. Or with their knowledge and skill in areas _other_ than the package in question. You are utterly wrong to assume that it's a term of disrespect. It isn't. That's bad enough -- but to object _also_ to the phrase 'dumping the work onto others' when that's a _precise_ description of what often happens with SElinux issues is beyond the pale. I am extremely disappointed to find that a sensible technical discussion can be hijacked by such political correctness gone mad. Please desist -- or at least take it off-list; either with me if you must, or preferably with your therapist. -- dwmw2 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
