David Woodhouse wrote:
On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 19:48 +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
Jeremy Katz schrieb:
On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 10:16 -0500, David G. Mackay wrote:
It was nice to see that zope is one of the packages available for
installation in F7. Unfortunately, the package won't work on F7
(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=238809). The
maintainer that received the bug report suggested that I make some noise
on the devel list, so here I am. The problem is that the zope version
packaged for F7 won't run with python 2.5.x
So? Surely it's the rôle of the Fedora package maintainer to _make_ it
work with Fedora? Is the package maintainer AWOL?
I'm not AWOL and I don't think it is my job to fix upstream code.
Ok, I will state yet again; This is not a packaging issue. This is an
issue of including python 2.4 support in Fedora 7 or not. Just because I
am maintaining the packages, does this mean it is a requirement I work
upstream to fix the many things that need to be done to even *begin* to
support python 2.5? No, I am just the packager. There are *technical*
reasons Zope will not run on python 2.5 and it is a lot more then it
seems you think.
To try to make this more a complete discussion (even though I have
already seen this posted): http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/Zope3UsingPython25
Please, I request that anyone that feels this is my fault and I am not a
capable package maintain read the above... and I mean all of it. To the
best of my knowledge this also shows there will never be any support for
python 2.5 in the Zope 2 branch; at least not any time soon. I don't
know when Plone is going to target Zope 3 but I get the feeling it is no
time soon. This means that even if we get Zope 3 support in Fedora 7
using python 2.5 all the plone users will be out of luck.
Shipping Zope in Fedora 5 and Fedora 6 and excluding it in Fedora 7 just
looks so bad to out the outside and created problems for out users. I'd
really would like to avoid that.
As would I.
Yes, we should avoid getting into a situation where that can happen.
We need to make sure we have active and capable package maintainers for
the packages we ship.
I am active. Please note the current pacakges are Zope 2.9.7 and Plone
2.5.2, the most current stable/recommended versions that run on python
2.4. I promptly push out updates. Please check these things before you
smear active members of the community.
Jonathan Steffan
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