On Mon, 2007-04-09 at 16:31 +0200, Leszek Matok wrote: > Dnia 09-04-2007, pon o godzinie 15:59 +0300, Gilboa Davara napisał(a): > > vmware-server dies a horrible death > > (taking the host with it) when combined with kernels >= 2.6.19. > > Now, I'm left with a problem > I'm not affiliated with VMware, but it's obvious for anyone who have > ever used their free products, that: > http://ftp.cvut.cz/vmware/ > contains vmware-any-any-update*, which makes VMware server compile even > under -rc series kernels and is updated pretty often. > > Anyhow, supporting old versions of software indefinitely, because they > can break some proprietary other piece of software, is totally against > Fedora goals. Go to VMware and make them put their modules into the > official kernel or learn how to fix things yourself (which in this > particular case is very easy, thanks to VMware, which aren't that evil > after all). > > Lam First, the automated "Supporting old versions of software .. break some proprietary .. is totally against Fedora goals" response has nothing to do with my post. I said -nothing- about support, I was talking about keeping the older kernels -on the servers- instead of deleting them once they are two weeks old. Second, I'm wasn't talking about "software", I was talking about the kernel and the kernel only. (Simply because the kernels changes very frequently tends to break a lot of software/hardware - proprietary or not.) A couple of examples: (From the last couple of weeks) 1. Recent FC5 kernels (coupled with FC5's mkinird) generate invalid initrd images on my software raid based file server. While easily solved (I -can- generate the initrd file by hand), only older 2.6.17.fc5 kernels work out of the box. 2. My brother's Athlon64/3800x2 machine does not boot with 2.6.19 kernel due to ACPI/BIOS problems. 3. Older fc6/xen kernel crashed a couple of my servers. And I can continue. As I said. I'm not asking for support. I'm not asking for stable ABI. Just keep the files on the server. It's -that- simple. - Gilboa -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list