On 2/23/07, Mike Kearey <mkearey@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I get the feeling you have managed to convince yourself that there is some malevolent influence at work in Fedora, and we may never convince you otherwise... But we can try.
I'd almost like it more if there were a smoke-filled room inside RH-HQ manipulating things in an organized way. But really, the problem is more of the opposite. It's obvious to me that there's been a lack of organization of interests inside the fenceline. Luckily for you and the other corporate serfs, I'm not in charge of Red Hat's internal Fedora education program. My seminars focus primarily on the use of tactile educational reinforcement, in the form of a baseball bat and kneecaps. Though if your manager at Red Hat is interested, I can be hired for just this sort of task on a consulting basis. That lack of internal organization on Red Hat's part, as a managing entity, has probably been the most frustrating thing to community leaders who want to work inside the project without having their work obsoleted by work being done internally that wasn't communicated externally. I'd be more specific, but the point of this email isn't to dredge up bad blood so I won't. I will say, that I am hopeful that the merger process is going to shake the most frustrating issues out (though I'm sure we will find new frustrations), as more and more of RedHat's engineers are asked to do work as part of the merged Fedora project. I don't expect it to go perfectly smoothly either. Injecting a group of new people with a common working culture, into another working culture, is bound to cause...friction...and some control issues. But at the end of the day, most of us are hungry enough for the resulting omelet even if we know we'll be a little messy cooking it. Though its not just the engineers, RedHat's employees who deal with things like training need to be encouraged to engage in the Fedora project as part of the job as well. So really the idea of the 'merger' between Core and Extras has to be bigger than just what we currently have as the Fedora codebase. We have to continue to 'merge' the interests of different groups inside RedHat's existing corporate culture with the overlapping but not dis-similar interests of external contributors in the Fedora community. -jef -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
