On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 14:40:54 -0900, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On 2/22/07, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > > And this may or may not be the correct -list for this, but here goes. > > I think its fair to say that a lot of the louder voices on the > > internet do not like Fedora for fair and unfair reasons. My question > > is what does this do to Fedora, and RedHat by association. I can't > > imagine that anything good is coming of this. All the developers here > > are bound by the 24hr daily limit, ie. there is a finite amount of > > work that any developer can accomplish, esp. those not being paid to > > work on Fedora. Making the assumption that all these negative word of > > mouth is bleeding Fedora of contributors, then what's the plan? > > First I'd stop making unfounded assumptions about how the contributor > numbers are falling. Still, the merge of Core+Extras will put the Fedora Project at a test. There are several issues I still don't understand and which sometimes make me shake my head in disbelief. For instance, but not limited to: * heavy use of Red Hat internal mailing-lists for Fedora related matters, * weird procedures by which Red Hat's Fedora Core package owners need sponsorship for cvs_extras and either get blanket approval or are really "sponsored" by community contributors without that the sponsors' responsibilities and duties are documented, * more closed circles, in which decisions are made -- including mysteries like brew, koji, and code transfer for the new Updates System, * unclear role of FESCo, not enough steering -- instead: the drive that "you don't need to be in FESCo to get something done", * the community used to have full control over Extras -- this control is lost, instead: even sponsors would need to ask their sponsorees for permission before they could fix or veto anything in CVS, * changes to infrastructure and policies/guidelines, respectively, without prior communication, * annoying cross-posts due to an overly complex and unclear choice of mailing-lists -- still: the feeling that some lists are missing, because vital communication and coordination (e.g. about things done in Core) is missing. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
