On Wednesday 31 January 2007 11:15, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > It must be opt-in. > > 1. May-be you should consider to talk to RH legal. > In many parts of this world opt-out is ILLEGAL. > > 2. It should be is a matter of fairness to make it opt-in. > > 3. In many parts of this world SPY-WARE like yours is a very hot > political topic. You are at risk at exposing Fedora to be subjects to > such flames. Even Microsoft has learned their lessons and made > "registration opt-in", now you are committing the same FAULT. Ralf, it is not registration, it is not spy ware. it is a voluntary hardware profile. there is no way to know that a profile is yours unless you give me your unique hardware id that is generated on your system at package install time. This will help fedora in many ways. it is opt-in you can choose to install or not install smolt. you can choose to sumbit a profile at any time or you can chose to never submit a profile. Right now what we would like to do is have at firstboot time a screen where the user can say yes send my hardware profile in. nothing more nothing less. Feel free to look at the code. there is no package list sent, no ip, no anything that can be associated to you without you giving me your id. Say you are having a weird X issue you could give your ID to the x team and they can look at your profile and try to replicate it to determine the bug, fix, and possibly test it. from http://publictest4.fedora.redhat.com/raw UUID cc4dfded-42d8-489d-af68-c2ff14438d1c OS Aurora SPARC Linux release 2.90 (Aurora Corona) platform sparc64 bogomips 2001.0 systemMemory 16229 systemSwap 3996 CPUVendor sun4v - ultrasparc t1 (niagara) numCPUs 32 CPUSpeed 1000.0 language en_US.UTF-8 defaultRunlevel 3 vendor sun system Sun Fire(TM) T1000 Bus Class Driver Description pci OTHER unknown Broadcom|EPB PCI-Express to PCI-X Bridge pci OTHER tg3 Broadcom Corporation|NetXtreme BCM5714 Gigabit Ethernet MISC NETWORK unknown Networking Interface pci OTHER tg3 Broadcom Corporation|NetXtreme BCM5714 Gigabit Ethernet MISC NETWORK unknown Networking Interface pci OTHER unknown Broadcom|HT1000 PCI/PCI-X bridge pci OTHER tg3 Broadcom Corporation|NetXtreme BCM5704 Gigabit Ethernet MISC NETWORK unknown Networking Interface pci OTHER tg3 Broadcom Corporation|NetXtreme BCM5704 Gigabit Ethernet MISC NETWORK unknown Networking Interface pci SCSI mptsas LSI Logic / Symbios Logic|SAS1064 PCI-X Fusion-MPT SAS scsi HD unknown ATA|ST3320620AS thats one of my systems that is all that gets sent. And again to re-iterate it is entirely voluntary "you choose" to submit or not your profile -- ,-._|\ Dennis Gilmore, RHCE /Aussie\ Proud Australian \_.--._/ | Aurora | Fedora | v -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list