Jesse Keating wrote:
You and I just disagree that this is bad messaging. Whether we're aiming for
equal footing or not, it just isn't there right now. And to be honest,
putting a lot of effort into making them equal is not going to happen from
the Red Hat resources.
That may be true but I am not expecting Red Hat to do all the work in
Fedora. We dont have a community if that was true. Luckily there is a
enthusiastic and active community around KDE in Fedora.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/KDE
We've picked our desktop, what we want to put our
efforts behind for our RHEL product line. For our product, multiple desktops
just fractures our userbase, doubles our support needs, weakens the product
overall as it takes away resources better spent on total integration.
RHEL includes both GNOME and KDE. Red Hat is going to have to support
them both. It might not make sense of engineering to do the additional
work. Yes, it does escalate support costs but we already have made that
choice due to customer demands. The same case for including three
different MTA's - sendmail, postfix and exim or anything in which we
provide more than one implementation of similar technologies.
For
that reason, the vast majority of Red Hat contribution to the Fedora
Community is going to be around the gnome desktop. I don't likely see this
changing in the foreseeable future.
Yes. I am already aware of that.
Will there come a time that the non Red
Hat contribution to the Fedora Community around KDE will outsurpass and
outshine the Red Hat contribution to the Fedora community around Gnome? I
don't think so, any time soon.
Maybe but what we are doing now is not going to encourage them.
Because it is a targetted spin for a particular peice of software, much like
an eclipse spin or XFCE spin or asterisk spin.
Yes, thats true for both a server and GNOME spin. Every different spin
is targeted towards a particular set of users.
How is it *not* a Fedora
Desktop?
At this point it is not THE Fedora desktop. Its not what we want to flaunt,
have reviews written about, be judged upon, etc. It is a startup, and needs
a lot of work/time to get to the polish / integration level we have with
gnome, our premier desktop.
Just because you call the spin, Fedora KDE doesnt mean people arent
going to flaunt, review or judge it.
You say this as if it's a good thing, I see this as another fact that KDE
isn't really designed for the mass userbase. How in gods green earth is
somebody supposed to look at a KDE menu and know that Konqueror is for
browsing the web? That "Kate" is for writing text files?
So why havent we fixed up the menu to be meaningful? Yeah right, because
we didnt have enough resources or we just have not cared. This is
exactly the sort of things opening it up to the community and doing a
targeted spin is supposed to fix.
Rahul
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