On Sun, 2006-12-24 at 19:18 -0500, Michael Tiemann wrote: > On Sun, 2006-12-24 at 19:09 -0500, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > > On 12/24/06, Eric S. Raymond <esr@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > The question remains. Do I have to *do shit by hand* > > > > Why not, you're doing an admirable job so far. > > Konstantin--how many packages do you maintain? I think that rather than > sniping at a would-be contributor, I'd like to see somebody who is > maintaining at least 30, and perhaps 50 packages explain how *they* I am one of those ;) > do it. By hand - It's largely trivial and __way__ less effort than some people seem to expect. > Maybe they have a better way. Maybe it drives them almost as crazy > Eric. How *does* a maintainer of 36 packages would with the Fedora > process? How *should* one do it? This is the question and the problem > to be solved. IMO, this is largely a non-issue. The real issues with maintaining 50+ packages in Fedora are elsewhere. Some examples: * Lack of automated rebuilds (manual mass rebuilds are a PITA). * Lack of automated "distro-consistency checks" (E.g. broken EVRs could fairly easily be avoided - Check a package before releasing it). * Lack of control over the release process (Currently, packages are automatically being pushed - No chance for a maintainer to withdraw a broken/mis-compiled built). I would expect maintainers to give "explicit clearance" before a package is being released. ... But ... all these issues are comparatively minor. The real road-blocks rendering Fedora non-attractive are of non-technical nature. Ralf -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list