On Mon, Dec 04, 2006 at 03:43:40PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Matthew Miller (mattdm@xxxxxxxxxx) said: > > I'm just not convinced that not being able to ssh in to a server and edit > > some config files but rather have to figure out how to tweak the > > policy-daemon-of-the-month is the user experience a large segment of "we" > > wants at all. Human-editable config files are a huge strength. Using a > > policy daemon may be part of the answer, but it should be able to get its > > configuration from something that can be fixed with vi. > > So, the entire thing boils down to "I don't like the g-conf storage > format?" (I'm honestly asking here.) It is also that some of the sysadmins (including me) are scared with the direction that the distribution seems to be taking. Some new tools seem to focus mainly on user functionality (which isn't a bad thing) and ignore the sysadmin side (which is bad). To us adding adding new tools that are less easy to script or manage with something like cfengine/puppet/etc is a huge step backwards, we don't care if users can now have a desktop applet so they can supend/hibernate the machine, we don't want them to be able to do that anyway. Kostas -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list