On Mon, 2006-12-04 at 14:38 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > Okay, let me phrase it differently. Moving our OS forward is great, but > there's no reason to _encourage_ this forward movement to be in directions > that fit in less well in existing production environments. The situation > where it's a great step forward for remote administration if and only if you > set up a whole new special infrastructure is counterproductive. No, doing things right (e.g. in a way so you can plug-in networked config backends) to start with is far better than having to deal with with retrofitting things later. Plus, people will never start to build networked config backends unless we actually start deploying software that will use it. Making e.g. g-p-m run when no-one is logged in solves a *bunch* of other problems; sorry if granting you these capabilities (that you didn't have earlier btw) as a system administrator causes you so much pain, e.g. that you can't hand-edit a bloody file in /etc using vi or emacs (but you will be able to run command tools as I mentioned in the other mail to tweak things). The whole proposal was put on the table to make life sweeter for system administrators like yourself. To gain feature parity for power management on the server and the desktop. To provide the same unique and powerful interface for configuring it. To attract admins not as trained as yourself. To enable remote administration in the future. And, frankly, this feature has not landed yet, I was just sharing some ideas from upstream. Sorry if it's too visionary for you. David -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list