Re: xorg-x11- packaging prefix

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Axel Thimm wrote:

On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 01:54:17PM +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
On Wed, 2006-05-03 at 12:58 +0200, dragoran wrote:
Axel Thimm wrote:
Should packages with source from outside of the xorg-x11 tree carry
this prefix (e.g. ivtv, nvidia, ati, etc)? E.g. is this a prefix like
often used "for <prefix>" or is it a cendor prefix, e.g. "by
<prefix>"?

How would a 3rd party driver package be best named?
xorg-x11-drv-<driver> or <3rd-party-vendor>-drv-<driver>?
I would say use

xorg-x11-drv-<driver>

the second one only confuses users.
but xorg-x11 is the name of the upstream vendor, and probably
trademarked or close to that. So I would suggest to not do that; even if
it's not a legal trademark, it makes sure that users realize where it
comes from (and thus where to report bugs ;)

Which brings us back to the question, does the prefix really imply "by
<prefix>" or "for <prefix>". Usually in packaging practice
"<prefix>-foo" means foo built for <prefix>, e.g. the miriads of
perl-XXX packages, now python-XXX, too, java-XXX, gkrellm-XXX, and all
other module- or plugin-type packages.

I'm the one who created the package naming of xorg-x11-* originally,
which some other distributions have also went along with since then
as well.  My choice of "xorg-x11" as the prefix for X packages was
intended specifically to:

- indicate that the software is an official part of the X.Org X11
  distribution
- allow users to see all of the X.Org supplied software grouped
  together in directory listings, etc.
- make it easier for me (and others) to write scripts to automate
  various parts of the development process, via globbing and other
  mechanisms.

The xorg-x11 rpm package prefix was thus intended to say "This software
is part of the official X.Org X11 distribution." and not "This software
is compatible with and/or intended for use with $same", just to be
clear.  ;o)


I don't mind either way, I just want to hear a clear statement from
the X11 packaging folks. Personally I tend to hear the sound of the
vendor in it, but I see many folks suggesting to use it as a domain
prefix. That's why I'm bringing it up.

It's the vendor.  Those who are suggesting it is a prefix for use by
random 3rd party drivers and/or other 3rd party software are sadly
mistaken, but nonetheless contributing their opinions in a useful
manner.  ;o)

They now stand corrected however. ;o)




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