On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 02:39:42AM +0200, Axel Thimm wrote: > On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 11:05:03AM -0400, Kristian Høgsberg wrote: > > Axel Thimm wrote: > > >On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 01:54:17PM +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > >>On Wed, 2006-05-03 at 12:58 +0200, dragoran wrote: > > >>>Axel Thimm wrote: > > >>>>Should packages with source from outside of the xorg-x11 tree carry > > >>>>this prefix (e.g. ivtv, nvidia, ati, etc)? E.g. is this a prefix like > > >>>>often used "for <prefix>" or is it a cendor prefix, e.g. "by > > >>>><prefix>"? > > >>>> > > >>>>How would a 3rd party driver package be best named? > > >>>>xorg-x11-drv-<driver> or <3rd-party-vendor>-drv-<driver>? > > >>>> > > >>>I would say use > > >>> > > >>>xorg-x11-drv-<driver> > > >>> > > >>>the second one only confuses users. > > >>but xorg-x11 is the name of the upstream vendor, and probably > > >>trademarked or close to that. So I would suggest to not do that; even if > > >>it's not a legal trademark, it makes sure that users realize where it > > >>comes from (and thus where to report bugs ;) > > > > > >Which brings us back to the question, does the prefix really imply "by > > ><prefix>" or "for <prefix>". Usually in packaging practice > > >"<prefix>-foo" means foo built for <prefix>, e.g. the miriads of > > >perl-XXX packages, now python-XXX, too, java-XXX, gkrellm-XXX, and all > > >other module- or plugin-type packages. > > > > > >I don't mind either way, I just want to hear a clear statement from > > >the X11 packaging folks. Personally I tend to hear the sound of the > > >vendor in it, but I see many folks suggesting to use it as a domain > > >prefix. That's why I'm bringing it up. > > > > It's used in a 'by' sense, notice that we have other out of tree drivers > > in the distribution already: synaptics and linuxwacom. > > OK, thanks, that was what I was looking for. So oot drivers have free > nomenclature (e.g. following the project's name), and when (if) they > enter xorg-x11 they become canonicalized to xorg-x11-drv-foo. > > Maybe I should toss it to fedoraproject.org's wiki somehwere. I've added an entry to http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/NamingGuidelines "Addon Packages (x11 drivers)" -- Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net
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