On 4/14/06, Marius Andreiana <mandreiana.lists@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Greetings, > > I've installed FC5 in the same week it was released (as usual), after > using FC5test on one of my systems. After almost a month I'd like to > share my impressions, not as a rant, but as sign of warning regarding > release quality. > > There are a lot of regressions from FC4. First, the replicable ones: > * webdav in nautilus is very slow, unusable for daily usage (made bug, > no reply) > * TV tuner no longer working (made bug, seems like udev issue after some > research, no reply) Not getting a reply has been my experience with Fedora Extras. As soon as I have time I'm going to see if I can help out with some of the packages that I've found poorly maintained. It's hard to tell if a package is being poorly maintained, or if the maintainer has gone into stealth mode to resurface at a later date with all kinds of work done. Question: How to find out if an Extras package is being worked on, and if further work is being done on it (such as adding SELInux policy, upgrading version, etc...)? Benjy > * totem subtitles no longer work properly (lots of "???" instead of > letters) > * on a 256mb RAM system GNOME it's hardly usable due to swapping with > more than 2 applications opened (firefox and another small one, no ooo). > Only minimal services (network, xfs..) are started automatically. > > These wouldn't have been much of a problem, but there are also several > un-replicable issues: > * window borders disappear sometimes and then all GNOME freezes. It's > possible to go to console with alt+Fn and kill some processes, but no > effect. X must be killed and restarted. > * once any application trying to output sound (including play on command > line) hanged (must use kill -9). Rebooting fixed it. > * starting udev gives sometimes "wait timeout. Switching to background > [failed]". Due to this, network start failed and bluetooth hanged. > Rebooting fixed it. > * mplayer complains sometimes that XVideo can't be opened. I know > mplayer isn't part of fedora, but the problem is with X. Restarting X > makes it work. > > To conclude, there are many issues impacting user productivity and also > a worrying trend "reboot and it should work" (sounds familiar?) I know > Fedora is very fast moving and we should expect bugs, but the FC5 > release feels like rawhide. Is this intended and daily users should > better look to RHEL? (Lack of Fedora Extras for RHEL prevents me to > switch right now, the licensing it's not an issue) > > Do you have any advices for developers? I don't see any real-world > solutions (unlike "developers should be more careful when writing code" > or make test cases for every function with every use case possible), but > still, the number of bugs is growing. > > Anyway, thanks for FC5 and the important technical developments which > were included :) > > -- > Marius Andreiana > > -- > fedora-devel-list mailing list > fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list > -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
