Once upon a time, Eric S. Raymond <esr@xxxxxxxxxxx> said: > OK. So the next question is, do *Red Hat's* goals no longer include > world desktop domination? Because if that's true, I need to find a distro > that hasn't ... er ... lost its idealism. If they'd "lost [their] idealism", they might include some of the things you are complaining about. You want it both ways, and you can't have that. If you think MP3, Flash, and Java are the missing "killer apps" to make Fedora Core the desktop for world domination, why don't you take Fedora Core, and those bits (getting licenses as needed), and release your own "Raymond Linux" distribution? Since everything in Fedora Core is fully redistributable, you are free to do that. -- Chris Adams <cmadams@xxxxxxxxxx> Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list