Alan Cox <alan@xxxxxxxxxx>: > Perhaps, or maybe you were just like Canute only you were saying that > the tide would come in.... Yes, I think that's arguably true about my original work identifying the many-eyeballs effect and so forth. Richard Gabriel came within an angstrom of getting all that ten years before I did in his "Worse is Better" paper, and I've been saying for years that somebody else would have between 1994-2000 if I hadn't. The evangelism to the suits, though? Not so much. I went out on a hell of a limb those first couple of years. We have the luxury of forgetting that nowadays because the crazy/nutty things I was saying then turned into conventional wisdom. Someday it will probably grow dim even in *my* mind how much sweat it took for me to accomplish that. But it hasn't yet. > That sounds more like Ubuntu's goals than Fedora. Fedora is intended to be > a testing ground for doing cool and exciting things with free software. In > the Ubuntu case you are making some interesting arguments, but Fedora isn't > intended to be Mum's new desktop, cool if it works out that way but its > not the design spec. OK. So the next question is, do *Red Hat's* goals no longer include world desktop domination? Because if that's true, I need to find a distro that hasn't ... er ... lost its idealism. -- <a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a> -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list