Hi, > But let's get a clear roadmap down this time, what features are > essential for the next cycle? A *much* reduced core size (5 CDs + rescue is getting a bit much) and large reduction in the overall memory overhead. I know FC is fantastic, but given you need 128Mb for a text only version and 512Mb for a desktop environment, it's becoming hard to justify to the powers that be that using Linux over WinXP is that good an option. Slack 10 can run (text only) in 18Mb with a desktop environment in 64Mb - Debian (sorry for swearing on this list) is a whole lot smaller than FC in terms of memory again. I think it was suggested that ISOs are made of FE. It may be time to do this, but with quite a lot from FC moved to it. For example, gcc-gnat, gfortran, objc and anything *not* mono/mcs (in other words, beagle, fspot etc) should, IMHO, be in extras - and yes, I do use gfortran and gnat. The OOo language packs should also be moved out - just keep in french, german, spanish and any big userbases. The same applies to Qt and KDE - quite a lot of the material in there should be in extras, Qt (standard + devel) and some of the kde system should be in Core. We also have a number of different database systems in Core. Could a case not be made for trimming it down to MySQL and postgresql with the rest again going to FE? 9 months is a long time for a release. Perhaps an interim release at the 5 month stage would be an advantage. Obviously, these are just ideas *but* they do answer a growing number of criticisms of FC. TTFN Paul -- "ein zu starker starker Anblick kann Sie toten. Sie gegen gerade uber den Rand mit dem festen Wissen des Wege vor Ihnen" - Linus Tordvals -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list