> Due to circumstances outside of our control, we're going to be unable to > keep to the scheduled date of March 15th for the release of FC5 and > instead are going to have to make the release date Monday, March 20th. > While unfortunate in some ways, this gives us the opportunity to pull in > the final GNOME 2.14 tarballs which should be available on Monday > assuming the changes are suitably minor. > > Jeremy I have two problems with this: The first is that FC5 will be released essentially _untested_ after two of its main components were upgraded to a stable release after FC5test3: - gcc 4.1.0 - glibc-2.4 It could be argued that FC5 will be _released_ with a stable release of its compiler and C library, but not that this had been tested. The second goes the same way, arguing that if test3 is the latest test release, any new major component should _not_ be upgraded to a new release, which is particularly true for a big beast like GNOME. Here are comments from Jesse and Alan made after I raised the very point of GNOME 2.14: > On Sat, 2006-02-04 at 11:57 -0500, Philippe Rigault wrote: > > > > I also very much hope that this will be an opportunity for re-assessing the > > relevance of March 15 as the release date for FC5-final, which I see a the > > worst possible choice in March, given the following release dates: > > March 15 GNOME-2.14, koffice-1.5 > > March 17 KDE-3.5.2 > > >On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 10:15:54 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > Unfortunately large changes such as the ones above would generally > require another test release before making it final. We're trying to > get all our major changes in before test3 so that the time between test3 > and final is spent fixing all the BUGS found in test3 rather than > introducing more new software and more new bugs. > >-- >Jesse Keating RHCE (geek.j2solutions.net) >Fedora Legacy Team (www.fedoralegacy.org) >GPG Public Key (geek.j2solutions.net/jkeating.j2solutions.pub) > >On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 10:37:30 -0500, Alan Cox wrote: >It would need to be a large delay because moving to major new versions means >invalidating a lot of the testing work in T1/T2. If sliding test2 a bit to fit >these would have worked then maybe there would be a practical way to do it, but >test3 > final is about polishing critical final bugs. > >Alan In conclusion, I think that: 1. There should be a new test release, so that gcc/glibc are tested before FC5 final 2. Since GNOME 2.14 may happen before this test release, it could be included. Cheers, Philippe -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list