Hello, I don't know if it is the kind of input that is usefull, but here it is. I tried a yum update from FC-4 to rawhide. I have general comments, packages leftovers, and Xorg modularization leftovers. 1) General Things went rather smoothly. Some scriptlet said somethings (but I didn't kept what they said). There was a failure in hal post scriptlet (no other error message than the message saying there was an error), so I ended with the old hal still present in the rpmdb. There is nothing in logs, so I guess reporting this failure isn't usefull. 2) Leftovers After the update, I had those packages from fc4 still installed: gnome-kerberos system-config-mouse comps perl-XML-Encoding gimp-gap iiimf-libs I could remove them without any issue, and they didn't blocked any update. I investigated a bit, gnome-kerberos system-config-mouse and gimp-gap weren't needed by anything, comps was needed by an apt subpackage (from extras if I'm not wrong), perl-XML-Encoding was needed by foomatic and perl-libxml-enno, and it seems that perl-libxml-enno has been obsoleted by other perl modules. iiimf subsystem seems to have been obsoleted by scim. Maybe anaconda knows how to deal with these packages? Otherwise they could appear in the wiki as packaged dropped from core that could be imported in extra (if it makes sense). Otherwise I don't have much idea on how to get rid of them during the yum upgrade. I believe they may block updates later... 3) X modularization It is possible that anaconda knows how to deal with those issues. Many unowned include files and directories are kept in /usr/X11R6/include/X11/ ls /usr/X11R6/include/X11/ ap_keysym.h fonts RectObjP.h Xatom.h Xfuncs.h xpm.h bitmaps HPkeysym.h Shell.h Xauth.h X.h Xpoll.h Composite.h ICE ShellP.h Xaw XKBlib.h Xproto.h CompositeP.h Intrinsic.h SM Xaw3d Xlib.h Xprotostr.h ConstrainP.h IntrinsicP.h StringDefs.h Xcms.h Xlibint.h Xresource.h Constraint.h keysymdef.h Sunkeysym.h Xcursor Xlocale.h Xthreads.h Core.h keysym.h Vendor.h Xdefs.h Xmd.h Xutil.h CoreP.h Object.h VendorP.h Xdmcp.h Xmu XWDFile.h cursorfont.h ObjectP.h X10.h XF86keysym.h Xosdefs.h DECkeysym.h PM Xalloca.h Xft Xos.h extensions RectObj.h Xarch.h Xfuncproto.h Xos_r.h A dangling symlink to X was also kept. There are also some empty directories unowned under /usr/X11R6/ (man, lib) and directories within. lib/modules/input /usr/X11R6/lib/X11: app-defaults fonts getconfig locale proxymngr xdm /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/fonts.dir /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/pt_BR.UTF-8/ In /usr/X11R6/include there are also the following unowned directories that should belong to openmotif: Mrm uil Xm The files within those directories belong to openmotif-devel-2.3.0-0.1.9.2. In fact there is a link from /usr/include/Mrm to ../X11R6/include/Mrm and similarly for Xm and uil. There is a bug about openmotif, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=170947 but it was closed. Hope it helps. -- Pat -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list