2006/2/23, Ivan Gyurdiev <ivg2@xxxxxxxxxxx>: > > > >From personal experience i do agree. simple example: > > > > socket 939 nforce 4x board fc4 vs winxp pro sp2 integrated: > > > > FC4: everything working out of the box no additional drivers needed > > besides raid didnt work in the installer. (known problem) > > Rawhide: Raid controller works out of the box aswell > > WinXP pro SP2: Onboard nic not working at all and downloading of > > driver not possible since no working NIC. > Can we please stop posting meaningless examples? > > Six years ago, when I started playing around with Linux I couldn't get > my Lucent winmodem to work, and Red Hat would not support it (which was > infuriating for a paying customer). There was always a hacked windows driver that worked just fine... no source for it though so how would an open source company support it? Its quite a different deal with hardware that doesent have specs available. For someone migrating to linux it can be bad luck... for a long time user of linux with the intention to have stuff working i see 2 options: 1. reengineer it and write a driver 2. get the vendor to release specs and someone to write a driver 3. or buy hardware that works again my centrino laptop has no wireless problems and i dont need the ndiswrapper crap either ;) regards, Rudolf Kastl p.s. i see no point here either to get more indepth of the topic. Today, my wireless card does not run > out of the box. By the argument you present above, I should conclude > that Linux has made no progress in six years. Right now we're at 50% > supported hardware (yours works, and mine doesn't). > > 05:08.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 > 802.11abg NIC ( rev 01) > Installation of the Windows driver clearly not possible, so I'm in no > better position than you on WinXP. > > -- > fedora-devel-list mailing list > fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list > -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list