On Mon, 2006-01-23 at 05:11 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > goemon@xxxxxxxxx wrote: > > > On Sun, 22 Jan 2006, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > > >> Though I am not a developer I already presented what I believe to be > >> compelling arguments against it. Remember again that every feature > >> has a associated cost. > > > > > > is the cost of an 'everything' button really so unreasonably high? > > Yes it is. > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-January/msg01138.html In that post, you're outlining why you think an Everything install isn't needed, but I somehow fail to see anything pertaining to cost there. I would say that because the code was there already (for quite a while), didn't cause any problems to me and possibly several others (otherwise), the cost of having it would have to be almost zero, the most of it would be to hide that option from the uninitiated. If we see the package selection as a tree of groups, subgroups and detailed packages, "Everything" is "just" the root node of that tree. The real problem to me is that at the moment it needs numerous clicks to select anything beyond a subgroup with its default packages > > Some of us dislike clicking jillions of buttons on every install. This > > seems a step backwards for FC. > > > Use kickstart, post installation yum or click on maybe 6 groups or let > me know the different use cases where end users would need it. Currently, kickstart is not an option installations of a single or few machines, the learning curve is too steep and effort to create a working kickstart file to high. Besides, if you want to convince other people of free software, you'd better show them a shiny, glitzy installer right away, not some cryptic installation script. And trust me, you do want these people to have everything on their machine, among other reasons because it's you who will be asked questions if they don't find something (and you don't want to teach them installing packages over the phone). Post installation yum is the best alternative suggested so far -- even I only want Everything minus all if only it could cope with the installation media already downloaded. Nils -- Nils Philippsen / Red Hat / nphilipp@xxxxxxxxxx "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- B. Franklin, 1759 PGP fingerprint: C4A8 9474 5C4C ADE3 2B8F 656D 47D8 9B65 6951 3011 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
