On Monday 02 January 2006 16:53, Warren Togami wrote: > Jeff Pitman wrote: > > On 1/2/06, Florin Andrei <florin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 05:24 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >>> When users choose to use third party repositories they are in many > >>> cases not aware that they are not just adding packages but also > >>> replacing existing ones in their system which might be a divergence > >>> they desire. The discussions initiated by one such user along with > >>> various posting in fedora forum, user lists and irc channel is enough > >>> proof that the problem exists. > > > > (Offtopic: is anyone else's mail not picking up Rahul's list postings? > > I've seen several responses to Rahul's email, however I haven't > > received any from Rahul since 12/27 from fedora-devel. Odd...) > > > >> This is currently the single most important problem with package > >> repositories. > > > > See Warren's posting: Core/Extras has no obligation to help the > > situation. > > Furthermore, I personally consider 3rd party repositories to be forks of > the distribution. In most cases this is no problem if they do not > overlap and do not replace Core/Extras packages. > > A "fork" is not necessarily a bad thing. Only users should be aware > that they use such repositories at their own option, and if they have > any problems they need to report it to their fork project/repository to > deal with it. It is not Fedora's responsibility to workaround problems > caused by forks or 3rd party software. While I agree that it isn't necessarily Fedora's responsibility to play nice with 3rd-party repositories, I think it ought to be a goal to make using 3rd-party repositories as painless as possible. I think there are quite a few people who might not use Fedora, if not for the 3rd-party repositories. If there's a fix or functionality addition to a core package needed for another package maintained by a 3rd-party, why not push them into the core versions? Then people who want software out of the 3rd-party repo but don't want core packages replaced get to have their cake and eat it too, and 3rd-party repositories don't get bashed as much. Everybody wins, no? Of course, someone within Red Hat would probably have to step up as 3rd-party repository liaison to coordinate the effort... But I think its something worth doing, for the sake of the Fedora community at large. -- Jarod Wilson jarod@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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