Hi, > On Ven 23 décembre 2005 19:13, Thomas Vander Stichele wrote: > > > Also, when was the last time that in a traditional closed software offer > > you could see the source, make changes to it, submit the changes, and > > get legal use out of your changes by using the next version of the > > binary that gets released ? > > > > You're trying to paint it a lot more black and white than it is, I > > think. > > This is a lot less exceptional than you think. Microsoft shared source > program is pretty much the same thing. Heh, you're showing your innate negativity too easily by comparing it to this. I'm pretty sure I can't look at Microsoft code for Windows *right now*, and even if I could, I'm pretty sure I can't expect a fix I send to be available any time soon. > Here only upstream is allowed to release legit binaries, so you don't get > the vendor freedom real FOSS permits. You conveniently omitted the fact that I've mentioned before - *everyone* downstream is free to sign this distribution contract with us. > The point of pure FOSS distros like FC is they're not benevolent > dictatorships. You don't like them you can leave them taking with you 100% > of the code and associated rebuild rights. > > As you admitted yourself a Centos-like effort would have to drop the mp3 > plugin. Again, you conveniently dropped half of what I said. I also said Centos could easily sign this contract with us and redistribute the mp3 plugin. I am getting the feeling you are dropping facts on purpose. I expected better. > So it's definitely not free (I'll grant you the open part) We never claimed it was "Free Software". Of course it's not 100% Free Software in the sense that GNU would want it. The reason is pretty simple - within the constraints of the patent issue it is not possible to deliver a completely Free Software solution. Thomas Dave/Dina : future TV today ! - http://www.davedina.org/ <-*- thomas (dot) apestaart (dot) org -*-> - Nice wheels. - Came with the car. <-*- thomas (at) apestaart (dot) org -*-> URGent, best radio on the net - 24/7 ! - http://urgent.fm/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list