On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 11:11 -0700, Dax Kelson wrote: > On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 10:48 -0500, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > On 12/20/05, Otto Haliburton <ottohaliburton@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > well, i can agree with you if fedora was a production system, as far as > > > I know it is a development system and the object is to select a complete > > > download, > > > > Pretty sure noone sane thinks an "everything" install is a good idea. > > But you are free to continue to attempt them. > > For a "production" box (server) that is performing some defined task(s), > I agree that "everything" is a bad idea. > > For a "power user"/developer box, I don't see any problem with an > "everything" install. Hard disk space is cheap and you can find some > cool apps you may not have found otherwise. > > Additionally, I can recall some situations where an application > dynamically gets extra functionality and features if other *addon* or > *plugin* packages get installed. > > For example, unless you have "kdeaddons" RPM installed the Konqueror > browser doesn't have the ability to save a web page offline in a > tarball. The menu item doesn't show up at all, what a mystery for > someone not familiar with low level KDE interactions. When I discovered > this a couple years ago the only way to get the "kdeaddons" RPMs > installed during installation was via an "everything" install. Possibly > this has changed now. > > Personally, I prefer an "Mostly english-only everything install" on my > personal boxes. I do an "everything" install, and first thing after the > install finishes I run: > > # trim some fat (1.1GB worth) > rpm -e `rpm -qa | grep ^openoffice.org-langpack` # 600MB > rpm -e `rpm -qa | grep ^kde-i18n` # 400MB > rpm -e `rpm -qa | grep -E ^man-pages-[[:alpha:]]` # 100MB > > This may be helpful to the original poster. > > Dax Kelson > Guru Labs > the possible solution is noted. I am going to toss this out and I know that it has been suggested many times, and that is that a graphical interface be created for yum. This has both a good and a bad component, which could be solved by having a standalone yum and a graphical interface to the stand along version. Up2date seems to function as one but I believe it has been effectively disabled in fc4. This is a suggestion but maybe a development thing for the future. -- Otto Haliburton <ottohaliburton@xxxxxxxxxxx> -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list