Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Actually I for example don't use KDE, and don't care if it's in core or > extras. As a system administrator, I'd much prefer if FC remained neutral wrt desktop choices. Some of my users prefer KDE, some Gnome. I don't want to start supporting two distributions to satisfy them all, so if FC kicked KDE out of core, I'd be forced to switch to another distro. > What I do care about is Gnome depending on arts. Actually, I dislike both arts and esd. In the past, I've had to find lots of workarounds for sound problems caused by them. Can't these darn desktops just play through ALSA without using a sound server, like all normal applications do? > I'd rather people spent more time untangling this kind of stupid > cross-dependencies than arguing what needs to be made second-class > citizen. I'd add that kde depends on esound, which is also unfortunate. The desktops should be independent of each other, or at least based on a common infrastructure (which is what freedesktop has been trying to achieve). > DVD burners and broadband will be generalized before Core shrinks to a > single CD anyway. In my experience, DVD burners and readers are already much more common than plain CD recorders and readers. Computers with no DVD readers are usually too old and slow to run a full featured Linux desktop comfortably, and if the current trend of adding features and complexity continues, it will become more and more true over time. I'm all in favor of shrinking the core distribution to save bandwidth, but the main distribution focus should be to fit everything into a single DVD, not a single CD. -- // Bernardo Innocenti - Develer S.r.l., R&D dept. \X/ http://www.develer.com/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list