Re: Gating Fedora updates on Fedora CoreOS CI

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On Fri, Feb 14, 2025 at 02:40:29PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2025-02-14 at 16:31 -0500, Dusty Mabe wrote:
> > IMO the bar would only need to be that high if the user had no way to ignore the test results.
> > All gating does here (IIUC) is require them to do an extra step before it automatically flows
> > into the next rawhide compose.
> 
> again, technically, yes, but *please* let's not train people to have a
> pavlovian reaction to waive failures, that is not the way.

IMO, the bar for *gating* tests needs to be high. I think 95% true
positives would be a reasonable threshold.

I know this is hard to achieve, but gating failures are very disruptive
to packagers. And false positives are even more disruptime: a person
not intimately familiar with the CI needs to spend a considerable
amount of time jumping through not-very-easy-to-read pages.
*If* I can be almost certain that the report is real and with enough
digging I'll figure out a bug, I'm ready to spend the time. But if
there's a considerable chance of a false positive _and_ the effort to
figure out if the report is real is also quite high, I'll just learn
to waive any failures.

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I cannot find it right now, but I hope it's still there somewhere…
Bodhi updates have (had?) a message that said someting like "for failing
update.* tests, contact <this channel>, for failing fedora-ci.* tests contact
<that channel>". Is something like that planned for the coreos.* tests?

Zbyszek
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