On Mon, Jan 20, 2025, at 6:24 PM, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > Dne 20. 01. 25 v 11:29 dop. Michael J Gruber napsal(a): >> There is a second point to that, and that is Fedora as a development >> platform (not just as an "app" platform). If we expect developers to >> install dependencies of their project via the ecosystem tools (pip, ...) >> locally (envs, containers) and "app packages" do the same during build >> then it is time to change the fundamental approach to our distribution >> and view it "merely" as a platform. > > Or we can work on the idea of Rings that Matt proposed ages ago [1]. I > would be +1 for allowing bundling if we allowed > it only in a ring N+1 and no package from ring N is dependent on > package from ring N+1. And each ring has its own > compose (yum repo). > This is a good idea. Would be great to minimize bundling at the core. Bundled packages do not get the same level of review as unbundled packages. Want to encourage upstreams to move used features into releases so that bundling is not a required option. A relatively stable development platform is needed. Containers, virtual environments are available when one needs/wants to break things. > [1] > https://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-present-and-future-a-fedora-next-2014-update-part-ii-whats-happening/ > > -- > Miroslav Suchy, RHCA > Red Hat, Manager, Packit and CPT, #brno, #fedora-buildsys > -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
