Daniel P. Berrangé venit, vidit, dixit 2024-12-18 10:53:00:
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 10:43:33AM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote:
> > I would object! We've been there prior we arrived to the current workflow.
> > And the typical situation was that such package was moved from one
> > non-responsive maintainer to the other non-responsive maintainer. With my
> > handle beginning with "v" I was always the last to become the maintainer and
> > I can telly you, waiting or actively calling out other inactive maintainers
> > is PITA. I don't think there is any big issue with the current situation.
> > There is 7 weeks for folks to figure that somebody could pick up orphaned
> > package.
>
> I don't accept that co-maintainers are (or should be assumed to be)
> "typically" non-responsive. That is a depressing denigration of
> many Fedora co-maintainer's work.
That is not said what Vit said, obviously.
People seem to forget that there's a simple solution:
- main admin steps back and asks admins to pick up, one does
There's even a second solution:
- main admin disappears/gets removed by process and one admin takes over
So, what we are talking about here is the case where the package got
orphaned for whatever reasons, and no admin has picked it up (again, for
whatever reason) nor advocated for substitutes. By definition of this
case ("such package"), we're dealing with non-responsive maintainers
here, where the 1st two solutions did not come to fruition.
I see too much reading into others' responses on this list lately, to
the point of skewing them completely. Now, I'm not reading bad
intentions into that either. Maybe it's the (pre-)season, the need for
holidays, or the topics themselves that came up. I just wish we'd all
tone down a bit and focus on understanding each others arguments (not
necessarily sharing them) rather than fueling the heat that is there
already. I wish us all warmth instead :)
Michael
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