Re: Fedora 42: The Answer to Life, The Universe and Everything

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Am Mo., 4. Nov. 2024 um 17:33 Uhr schrieb Neal Gompa <ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx>:
>
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2024 at 11:26 AM Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 10:52:18AM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> > > I posted this discussion on Fedora Discussion[1] last week, but I'd
> > > like to forward this discussion to devel-list for wider consideration.
> > > For the sake of keeping the conversation in one place, I do ask that
> > > you reply on the Discussion thread, rather than on Fedora Devel,
> > > please.
> > >
> > > """
> > > The number “42” is a significant part of the story of the Hitchhiker’s
> > > Guide to the Galaxy, a classic series of satirical science fiction
> > > written by Douglas Adams. It has a long and enduring history in the
> > > geek lexicon, and it seems to me like the Fedora Project would be
> > > missing a tremendous opportunity to have a little fun with it.
> > >
> > > I’d like to propose that we consider bringing back the old Fedora
> > > codenames just this once and declare the release “Fedora 42 (Adams)”,
> > > ideally with a few subtle nods snuck in to the artwork for the
> > > release.
> > >
> > > When discussing this on the Fedora Council Matrix channel, Aleksandra
> > > Fedorova also made the excellent suggestion of producing some “Fedora
> > > Linux 42”-branded hand towels (which is another nod to the
> > > Hitchhiker’s series).
> > > """
> >
> > Yes, could be a nice "one off" special.
> >
> > For context, I was trying to remind myself of the various reasons
> > why we stopped doing release names originally. Sadly a lot of
> > Fedora's historical record appears to be lost from moving and/or
> > discontinuing services :-(
> >
> > The best I found was:
> >
> >   https://web.archive.org/web/20140402023558/https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/advisory-board/2013-October/012209.html
> >
> > which links to "meeting minutes" documented in
> >
> >  https://fedorahosted.org/board/ticket/146
> >
> > which no longer exists, and doesn't seem to have been archived
> > either [1].
> >
> > The requirement to get legal vetting was the main issue mentioned
> > in the mailing post, and I do recall that was the big resource
> > drain in the old process.
> >
> > We would need to get legal clearance to use "Adams" I presume.
> >
> > At least if we're doing this as a pre-determined choice
> > in one-off exercise, we're not going to be wasting Legal
> > resources as we did when we had them vetting 5+ different
> > names every 6 months.
> >
>
> To be honest, I think we should bring back codenames overall, but I'll
> take the one-off for now.

Well, I remember that we had a defined process and that that process
was played/rigged/you name it to propel a codename that many people
were very unhappy with. We'd have to make sure to avoid that in a new
process.

But: We have too many meaningless names already, just look at the
names of some spins we (used to) have. Kinoite really is/was the only
differently named one with some klear klue to its konnection. Sericea?
Silverblue? And ublue folks are taking this new "heights" with aurora
and whatnot.
Whenever I have to find out if something is new or old in debian I'm
forced to check whether bullseye, weasel or whatever is the newest
silly name. It's just unhelpful. And as soon as we tag a name on a
release, some people will use it instead of the release number, adding
to the confusion.

So please just don't. Except for 42 of course ;-)
Michael
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