Re: Privacy-conscious policy for Fedora Linux [was Re: F42 Change Proposal: Opt-In Metrics for Fedora Workstation (system-wide)]

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On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 09:48:21AM +0000, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 02:13:12PM -0500, Michel Lind wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 02:45:31PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > > On Sun, Jul 14, 2024 at 04:14:03AM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> > > > That said, it is not sufficient to reject adding Fedora downstream spyware. 
> > > > Fedora also needs a policy that upstream "telemetry" spyware is not allowed 
> > > > and needs to be disabled at compile time or patched out. We have several 
> > > > packaged applications wanting to "phone home" for this kind of "anonymized 
> > > > usage statistics". This should not be allowed in a privacy-concious 
> > > > distribution.
> > > 
> > > I'm not convinced that that's the exact policy we want, but I do agree that
> > > we should have a stated policy. There was some work on a "privacy policy for
> > > the OS" a while ago, but that basically ran aground in the choppy waters of
> > > legal statements -- and I think a similar attempt would run into the same
> > > problems. But, we could have a policy that _isn't_ a legal statement;
> > > basically a packaging guideline.
> > > 
> > I'd be happy to help with that - should Council look at this first or
> > should this go straight to either FESCo or FPC?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> a long time ago I wanted to propose a more formal policy for privacy
> behaviours and I wrote this draft [1]. My idea was that we'd first
> create and approve such a policy, and then add the conformance to this
> policy to the packaging guidelines. Maybe this draft can be useful.
> If a policy is created, I'd like to participate in the process.
> 
> [1] https://in.waw.pl/~zbyszek/fedora/fedora-privacy-policy-draft-20210531.md

FWIW, that could have a "debuginfod" section added, since that transmits
info about software you're debugging to Fedora infra - IIUC even if it is
not Fedora built/distributed software 

With regards,
Daniel
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