for the generic 'you', 'your', 'me' and 'my' ... one _user_'s comment on this interminable topic. create whatever surveys 'you' want. create tools to collect whatever metrics 'you' want. it's up to 'you' to code & manage them correctly, in compliance with project & community policies, and laws. if collected data is of value to 'you', it's 'your' job to communicate clearly and convincingly to 'me' if 'you' want me to choose to participate. **NO** data, of any kind, should be collected or sent from any system in 'my' env, without 'my' *explicit*, confirmed opt-in -- ideally with 'my' clear understanding, but there's no *guarantee* to 'you' of that, beyond my say-so. that explicit confirmation should be either in the form of an explicit opt-in to an online service -- and by "explicit" i mean NOT "buried in the microprint" -- or by an explicit ACTION, such as choosing and installing a package that installs 'your' data query/collection tool on my system(s). if i catch any collectors/surveys/etc grabbing data from 'my' systems without 'my' opt-in, i immediately disconnect. if: (1) i can't remove them from my systems trivially or (2) _prove_ that they're fully/permanently disabled or (3) "Official Policy" changes to support/enable poking around in 'my' systems without opt-in/permission, then i will permanently remove the SYSTEMS from the environment. and switch to another. -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue