On Fri, 2005-10-14 at 14:08 -0400, Elliot Lee wrote: > On Thu, 13 Oct 2005, Stephen J. Smoogen wrote: > > > One of the things we have to do at our sites is remove the Red > > Hat/Fedora syslog services and replace them with syslog-ng. The TCP > > part, the better message congestion issues, and the better ability to > > group logging together is really needed by larger sites. [We have > > found that the lossiness of regular syslog can get black marks on > > reviews.] A long time ago, it was proposed for inclusion around Red > > Hat Linux 6.0 but was considered too unstable and some other issues. > > > > Could it be evaluated again for either for replacing the older syslog > > system or working the syslog system so that alternatives could cover > > it with syslog-ng in extras? What issues would need to be done to help > > this along? > > There are enough syslog replacement wannabees out there that this isn't a > slam-dunk decision. Because the client-side interface is built into glibc, > so many apps use the syslog interface that just putting syslog-ng into the > distro won't accomplish much for admins. > > (For syslog-ng in particular, I seem to recall when I looked at it that it > avoided making radical-but-necessary improvements for the sake of > compatibility, which makes it sound a bit like subversion to me.) > > I think someone needs to evaluate the millions of syslog replacements out > there, pick the best one overall, and get the client-side API for that > into glibc. Then it'll just be a matter of starting to convert apps from > the old API to the new one. > okay I'm confused. Why isn't using syslog-ng a slam-dunk. 1. we don't break compatibility for the api - which means not modifying lots of difficult programs 2. it makes it easier for this to trickle into rhel 3. it's a known value in that it's used in large-scale and small-scale operations all over the place. 4. it's an immediate win over syslog in that it is: a. more feature-full b. actually maintained -sv -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
