On Thu, 13 Oct 2005, Stephen J. Smoogen wrote: > One of the things we have to do at our sites is remove the Red > Hat/Fedora syslog services and replace them with syslog-ng. The TCP > part, the better message congestion issues, and the better ability to > group logging together is really needed by larger sites. [We have > found that the lossiness of regular syslog can get black marks on > reviews.] A long time ago, it was proposed for inclusion around Red > Hat Linux 6.0 but was considered too unstable and some other issues. > > Could it be evaluated again for either for replacing the older syslog > system or working the syslog system so that alternatives could cover > it with syslog-ng in extras? What issues would need to be done to help > this along? There are enough syslog replacement wannabees out there that this isn't a slam-dunk decision. Because the client-side interface is built into glibc, so many apps use the syslog interface that just putting syslog-ng into the distro won't accomplish much for admins. (For syslog-ng in particular, I seem to recall when I looked at it that it avoided making radical-but-necessary improvements for the sake of compatibility, which makes it sound a bit like subversion to me.) I think someone needs to evaluate the millions of syslog replacements out there, pick the best one overall, and get the client-side API for that into glibc. Then it'll just be a matter of starting to convert apps from the old API to the new one. Best, -- Elliot -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list