On Fri, 2024-04-12 at 19:03 -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 4:41 PM Adam Williamson > <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Michel Lind just prompted me to notice that the 'network' service > > appears to have been removed from initscripts in Fedora 40+. This > > change seems to have landed in February without any fanfare - > > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/initscripts/c/414789841de9247310ebfd37cd043b75963f7cac?branch=rawhide > > . There is no Change for it, AFAICS. > > > > This does not appear to be driven by upstream removing it, because the > > commit apparently specifically adds 'NO_NETWORK_SCRIPTS=true' to remove > > it from the build. Presumably without that, it would still be built. > > > > I'm a bit worried about this arriving unannounced and apparently mostly > > unnoticed. There *are* still reasons to use the network service; I > > still use it on the openQA worker hosts, for instance, because there is > > integration between openvswitch and the legacy network service, but no > > integration between openvswitch and NetworkManager. I also use an ifup- > > pre-local script to pre-create tap devices; NetworkManager apparently > > does not support this natively. There's a suggested workaround at > > https://access.redhat.com/solutions/6900331 , which is helpful, but > > still, it's a significant change if you're using that mechanism. > > > > As a user of this service, I would've expected more of a heads-up that > > it was going away; if I hadn't happened to catch Michel's message I > > might have upgraded openQA staging to F40 immediately on release (as I > > usually do) and been rather surprised that the network setup stopped > > working. I'm sure I will find a way to re-engineer this rather > > complicated network setup without network.service, but a bit more of a > > heads up would have been nice. > > > > Should this have been a Change? How worried are we about it going out > > in Fedora 40 without having been through the Change process? > > This should have been an announced Change. This is a significant > change with wide impact. I've filed a bug, proposed it as a blocker, and filed a FESCo ticket asking FESCo to designate the bug as a blocker. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2274830 https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3196 -- Adam Williamson (he/him/his) Fedora QA Fedora Chat: @adamwill:fedora.im | Mastodon: @adamw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx https://www.happyassassin.net -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue