Michel Lind just prompted me to notice that the 'network' service appears to have been removed from initscripts in Fedora 40+. This change seems to have landed in February without any fanfare - https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/initscripts/c/414789841de9247310ebfd37cd043b75963f7cac?branch=rawhide . There is no Change for it, AFAICS. This does not appear to be driven by upstream removing it, because the commit apparently specifically adds 'NO_NETWORK_SCRIPTS=true' to remove it from the build. Presumably without that, it would still be built. I'm a bit worried about this arriving unannounced and apparently mostly unnoticed. There *are* still reasons to use the network service; I still use it on the openQA worker hosts, for instance, because there is integration between openvswitch and the legacy network service, but no integration between openvswitch and NetworkManager. I also use an ifup- pre-local script to pre-create tap devices; NetworkManager apparently does not support this natively. There's a suggested workaround at https://access.redhat.com/solutions/6900331 , which is helpful, but still, it's a significant change if you're using that mechanism. As a user of this service, I would've expected more of a heads-up that it was going away; if I hadn't happened to catch Michel's message I might have upgraded openQA staging to F40 immediately on release (as I usually do) and been rather surprised that the network setup stopped working. I'm sure I will find a way to re-engineer this rather complicated network setup without network.service, but a bit more of a heads up would have been nice. Should this have been a Change? How worried are we about it going out in Fedora 40 without having been through the Change process? -- Adam Williamson (he/him/his) Fedora QA Fedora Chat: @adamwill:fedora.im | Mastodon: @adamw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx https://www.happyassassin.net -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue