Re: F41 Change Proposal: Switch to DNF5 (system-wide)

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On Wed, Apr 03, 2024 at 11:57:48AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2024-04-03 at 14:27 -0400, Przemek Klosowski via devel wrote:
> > On 4/3/24 06:36, Aoife Moloney wrote:
> > > the dnf-automatic command will be obsoleted.
> > 
> > https://dnf5.readthedocs.io/en/latest/changes.html does not say anything 
> > about automatic updates, and
> > 
> > https://packages.fedoraproject.org/pkgs/dnf5/dnf5-plugin-automatic/
> > 
> > simply suggests that dns update be executed from systemd timers or cron 
> > jobs.
> > 
> > 
> > dns-automatic provided a simple interface to a setup-and-forget 
> > automatic updates; will DNF5 leave it to be set up by hand?
> > 
> > I am asking because systemd timers have surprising behavior for 
> > suspendable systems, which leads to problems if updates are scheduled 
> > for off-hours.
> > 
> > My experience is that even |WakeSystem=true does not make them reliable, 
> > but I am not sure how to debug this (because the system is suspended, heh).
> > 
> 
> We do use dnf-automatic quite extensively within infra, I think. Has
> this been discussed with infra?

Not that I know of. Yes, we do use dnf-automatic all over the place. ;( 

kevin

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