(Not involved in any way here so feel free to ignore most of what I'm saying) Marc Deop i Argemí wrote on Sat, Feb 03, 2024 at 03:16:47PM +0100: > - If a user decided to install the X11 package and has an issue: who do you > think they are going to reach? who is gonna get the "bad publicity" for the > issue? ( specially when we are forced to tell them we don't support X11...) I don't really understand this one -- why would they reach for the KDE SIG specifically? What does "support" even mean in this context? As a fedora user (not even using KDE), I don't care about SIGs, if I have a problem I'll just open a bz against the package that gives me trouble. Now I'm sure some tickets will be open against KDE without specifying they're using the X11 packages, but at least semi-automated bugs will have a package list so it shouldn't be _that_ much trouble to just reassign the bug to the x11 package if required (especially since x11 is no longer selected by default and requires manual intervention to use, I'd expect most users who care enough to report a bug to be aware of the difference) At this point it's no longer KDE SIG's problem -- it's whoever is maintaining the package's role to follow up on that bz. I haven't seen Kevin or anyone else say they'd just close the bugs as "not my problem" -- x11 is still supported upstream so I'd expect they'd at least forward the bug there, if they don't look into it themselves directly. Also if you're concerend about the "publicity", for users who cannot run on wayland yet for whatever reason (hardware, buggy drivers...) having the possibility to use x11 at all is still going to be much better PR than "nope sorry we don't want to spend time on X11 just suffer through the wayland bugs" which is exactly how this will sound to them (yes I can understand the reasons that were given up for this and rationalize this a bit better, but this isn't how it'll look for someone with problems) Long story short, I agree with the "if someone wants to do it let them do" stance. I can't speak about your second point (delaying upgrades), but from what I've read of this thread it doesn't seem like there'd be a huge delay if some minimal communication is in place, and the suggesstion of having a KDE X11 sig to ensure it's not just a single person also makes sense (although if it's a single package just having multiple maintainers to it sounds enough to me) -- Dominique Martinet | Asmadeus -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
