On Sat, Dec 09, 2023 at 08:03:48AM +0000, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > I'm not entirely sure if you're just doing Friday trolling or if > you're serious. I'll reply for real, apologies if this was meant as > a joke. DJ has been hacking on free software since I was still at school, so no, he's not trolling. > On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 12:59:22PM -0500, DJ Delorie wrote: > > Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <zbyszek@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > > > There is a long-term goal of moving packaged files out of /etc, > > > > I will note that I'm opposed to this goal as a goal per-se. > > > > If you want an empty directory, "mkdir /etc2" should work for you. > > > > I fear this will end like the /tmp fiasco where one /tmp became many tmp > > directories, and no consistent rule about which one to use. > > /tmp is generally backed by RAM and does not survive a reboot. And that's a really bad idea, which I always turn off in any computer or server I manage. Limiting /tmp to using RAM + swap and having it erase at reboot is pointless additional complexity. This caused us to go through countless lines of code deciding if a temporary file is "small" (how small? don't know!) and whether it should live in /tmp or /var/tmp for people who have to suffer this configuration. Filesystems already use RAM for caching when necessary, and I want temporary directories with a controlled lifetime, not "whenever the power happens to go off". Plus more typing. > > > At some point, I think we should make this an explicit goal in Fedora. > > > > Please don't. > > You seem to like the current scheme. But it was designed in the times where > people did much more manual tweaking of their systems. We now care a lot > about clean and automatic upgrades. Having to resolve three-way differences > between a bunch of config files conflicts with that. People use their systems in different ways. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming and virtualization blog: http://rwmj.wordpress.com virt-p2v converts physical machines to virtual machines. Boot with a live CD or over the network (PXE) and turn machines into KVM guests. http://libguestfs.org/virt-v2v -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
