I disagree. I rather have a stable FC5 with an older KDE/GNOME then have an fairly stable that semi-work DE that's broken in 50 different places. As a couple of people (and RH devs) states in the different thread, FC4 is/was a problematic release. Considering this, it's imperative to get a better, stable, FC5 out. (Even if it's not bleeding edge) Anyways, what-ever you decide, please, please, please make sure gnome-pilot is working this time? Gilboa On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 22:29 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > > This could easily be a slippery slope. If you push back a two-three > > weeks for Gnome, then you might find that the shiny new Firefox release > > is due out in two more days, so you might as well hang on for that, and > > then the next OO release might finally happen, and then there's a new > > kernel release... And then shoot, if we can just hang on another four > > weeks, we have another shiny new Gnome release! If 2.14 is far enough > > along, they might be able to ship with -pre or -rc type releases and > > just put out updates for final, but we may just be stuck with 2.12. > > That's not such a bad thing. > > Well I seem to remember one of the Fedora releases slipping a week or > two to allow a gnome release. I can't see them doing it for a single > application. OO in FC4 is a pre-release, it was and still is during > the whole devel and release period, but then the features and > stability was deamed a trade off, and it gives the newly included cgj > java a good workout. Its easier to ship a beta of a single application > and role back if necessary as opposed to an entire desktop > environment. In the former its easier to hedge your bets and role > back, with an entire env its easier slipping the schedule a week or > two if the RCs are looking OK than having to role it back later, but > by then the devel releases may well have had testing in devel and look > OK and the decision would be made on that.... application or platform! > > Pete -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list