Re: F39 candidate composes coming - here's the plan

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> Am 26.10.2023 um 03:44 schrieb Adam Williamson <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> 
> On Wed, 2023-10-25 at 11:23 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> Hey folks! Just to keep everyone in the loop regarding F39 plans.
>> 
>> As you may have noticed, we've slipped once or twice already (depending
>> on whether you count the "early target date") and are in danger of
>> slipping again. The go/no-go meeting is scheduled for tomorrow (2023-
>> 10-26). The outstanding blockers are all Raspberry Pi-related, aside
>> from the shim one we've been waiving for several releases and intend to
>> waive again.
>> 
>> Matthew Miller, Kevin Fenzi and I came up with this plan: we're going
>> to run a compose right now without fixes for the two outstanding Pi
>> blockers (2241252 and 2244305). If QA can get sufficient testing on
>> this done by the go/no-go meeting, we can discuss the possibility of
>> shipping it and noting that there are known issues with Raspberry Pi
>> that are taking time to resolve, and Pi users should not install or
>> upgrade to F39 until they're resolved (or something like that).
>> 
>> If at any point a fix for 2241252 shows up, we'll run another compose
>> with the fix included. If that gets sufficient testing by the time of
>> the meeting, we can also consider that as a candidate to ship. If ARM
>> team decide to attempt a fix for 2244305 we'd also pull that in, but if
>> not, we think it's reasonable to consider revoting or waiving that bug,
>> as it seems not to happen very commonly or consistently and the
>> proposed "fix" apparently comes with tradeoffs of some kind.
>> 
>> So, QA folks, please stand ready to test one or two candidate composes
>> soon. If we wind up with two, we will consider most test results to
>> apply to both, as the only difference should be uboot-tools; we would
>> want to run ARM hardware tests, at least, on both composes if possible.
>> The usual announcement mails will be sent for the completed composes.
>> 
>> Thanks folks!
> 
> Update on this: the first candidate without Pi fixes is done and
> currently available for testing - see
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_39_RC_1.1_Summary .
> The second candidate is running, when it is done,
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_39_RC_1.2_Summary
> will be live.
> 
> Most tests of either candidate will be valid for both, but we
> especially would like testing of the second candidate (when it's done)
> on ARM hardware - obviously on Raspberry Pi, but also on any other ARM
> hardware folks have lying around. We ended up having to revert uboot-
> tools to an older version to try and address the Pi issues, so we need
> to check that hasn't broken anything else important. If you run into
> problems, please file a bug, propose it as a release blocker, and maybe
> reply here just to be sure :)

During the morning (in Europe) I tested F39 RC 1.2. The arm-installer has a serious bug  which makes installation for all my SBCs impossible. I posted details on the ARM list. In my opinion we should either not release now or release without the ARM raw SBC images (and w/o arm-installer). We can then release those at a later date in the follow-up.

I found a new issue in the Server full installer. 

After the message:
Starting installer, one moment ….

There are 10 lines showing the same message:
** (process:2431): Warning **: 13:01:21-525: expected enumeration type void, bit got PyBlockDevPlugin instead 

The Installation works, but showing error messages before the user, specifically new ones, hadn’t done anything, is a were bad show and is likely to undermine confidence in our (Fedora's) seriousness about quality assurance.



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