On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 12:06 PM Maxwell G <maxwell@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Tue Sep 26, 2023 at 13:07 +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > Maxwell G wrote: > > > Also, I do not like that this is tied together to the Plasma 6 change. > > > Nobody is actually talking about the subject of the change, KDE Plasma > > > 6; most of the conversation is about dropping X11 which was tacked on to > > > this Change. > > > It would be better as a separate Change with a separate discussion, IMO. > > > > +1 > > > > This looks to me a lot like a typical political maneuver, sneaking an > > undesirable change into an otherwise desirable larger one in an attempt to > > get the undesirable part through with less resistance. > > I am not suggesting that there is malicious intent here. Even if I do not > agree with it, the Change owners did justify their reasoning for doing > this. > Indeed. And I added further detail to the Change document about why we're doing it now instead of later[1]. To summarize: there's no such thing as a "good" time to do it, and the SIG feels that doing it at the Plasma 6.0 major version upgrade allows us to reset expectations, as users are used to major versions being significantly different than their predecessors. Otherwise, we have to do it sometime later in the middle of the Plasma 6.x lifetime, which was much less appealing. The discussion on this thread has been mostly quite helpful, and has allowed me to provide feedback to KDE developers on prioritizing things for Plasma 6 development[2]. [1]: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/KDE_Plasma_6#Why_drop_the_X11_session_with_the_Plasma_6_upgrade? [2]: https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-devel/2023-September/002047.html -- 真実はいつも一つ!/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue