Re: Say goodbye to polymake

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On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 08:23:54AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 04:13:59PM -0600, Jerry James wrote:
> > The introduction of perl 5.38.0 broke polymake beyond repair.  Several
> > symbols formerly used by polymake have been marked as internal APIs.
> > They now have the ELF hidden attribute, so we can't even cheat by
> > adding prototypes to the polymake code.
> 
> Do you have a list of the deprecated APIs they are using?  Or a link
> to a bug on the topic?  I happen to have far too much experience of
> Perl internals and I might be able to suggest replacements (although
> not promising anything ...)

This is the only discussion I can find:

https://forum.polymake.org/viewtopic.php?t=1914

Let me remove that configure block and try to see what actually fails
when it builds ...

> Rich.
> 
> > Polymake upstream is aware of the issue.  For the time being, they are
> > advising their downstreams to stay on perl 5.36.0, which is not
> > feasible for Fedora.  In the long term, they plan to remove the
> > mandatory perl bindings from polymake.  However, they as yet have no
> > timeline for that effort.  It might be years.
> > 
> > I don't see that I have any choice but to retire polymake from
> > Rawhide.  This will have some repercussions:
> > - gap-pkg-polymaking, python-jupymake, and python-jupyter-polymake
> > will also be retired
> > - sagemath and Macaulay2 will be rebuilt without polymake support
> > - packages that I have maintained solely for use by polymake will be
> > orphaned: azove, permlib, plantri, sympol, vinci
> > 
> > I could try begging the perl package maintainers to add a downstream
> > patch making the affected symbols visible again.  However, since those
> > symbols are now internal only, the perl maintainers are free to alter
> > or remove them at any time, so that would not be a good long term
> > solution.
> > -- 
> > Jerry James, who is currently channeling Billy Joel
> > http://www.jamezone.org/
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