On 6/3/23 08:42, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Sat, Jun 3 2023 at 10:26:07 AM -0000, John Iliopoulos <jxftw2424@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Hello, >> >> While i completely understand why you do this i do think that it is >> important for desktop/workstation oriented devices to have some >> optional access to Office directly from the image file. Have you >> considered shipping the LibreOffice flatpak via the ISO much like >> Fedora Silverblue does with various other applications? >> >> This is the first time i reply to a mailing list so i hope i have not >> done anything wrong. > > Hi. Welcome to the list. You haven't done anything wrong. > > For Fedora Workstation, the mid-term plan is to ship all preinstalled > apps as Fedora Flatpaks. We cannot ship anything from Flathub because > FESCo will not allow it. I don't *like* this FESCo requirement, but I > also don't expect that to change. Accordingly, since Fedora Flatpaks > are built from Fedora RPMs, maintaining the LibreOffice RPMs is > essential to keep LibreOffice preinstalled. (I think that applies to > Silverblue as well?) Fedora Flatpaks are also a security disaster: they are shipped in OCI format instead of OSTree format, but they aren’t signed by anyone. I’ve disabled the Fedora remote and recommend that others do the same. > My $0.02: maintaining complex desktop applications as part of the > operating system requires significant effort and produces low value for > users when you can easily install that app from Flathub instead. (It > *especially* doesn't make sense to do in RHEL, but let's focus on > Fedora here.) What is your reasoning here? I’m not saying I disagree with you, but I want to know *why* you believe this, especially since flatpaks consume additional memory and disk space compared to RPMs. -- Sincerely, Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers) _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
