On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 04:26:35PM -0400, Gerald Henriksen wrote: > On Wed, 21 Jun 2023 21:06:40 +0100, you wrote: > > >Hi all, > > > >Obviously many will have seen: > > > >https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/furthering-evolution-centos-stream > > > >and see, where EL (contributors like you of fedora/EPEL) have been knocked down: > > > >https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2215299 > > > >Let us face it our efforts with the Fedora project are not valued and it is a means nothing to the > >new corporate IBM/Red Hat enterprise systems that we have to struggle to get access to srpms, to > >make a community. What is community now to Red Hat? > > My interpretation of the blog post, combined with recent actions > towards Fedora by Red Hat, is that Red Hat now views CentOS Stream as > the new "Fedora" for basing future versions of RHEL. IMHO this is a mis-reading of the above blog / general situation. The flow of development for future versions of RHEL is absolutely still originating in Fedora, where Rawhide feeds into ELN (Enterprise Linux Next), which then becomes the next major RHEL release. Fedora -> ELN -> RHEL-$NEXT Nothing described in that blog post above changes this process, so what's written there doesn't have any direct impact on Fedora. If you look at rawhide / eln branches in Fedora dist-git today you can see ongoing changes in many packages that will feed into RHEL-10. CentOS Stream is *not* the new Fedora. Fedora remains critical to future RHEL. CentOS Stream is the development path *within* a major RHEL release eg CentOS Stream 9 -----------------------------------> | | | V V V RHEL-9.1.0 RHEL-9.2.0 RHEL-9.x.0 | | | | | | V V V The main effect of the blog post I see is that the bug fixes / CVEs that go into RHEL-9.1.z, 9.2.z, 9.x.z streams are no longer going to be freely available - only the initial content of each poinmt release in available from CentOS Stream. This doesn't impact Fedora, but will certainly impact the various RHEL rebuilds whether community based (AlmaLinux, Rocky Linux), or fully commercial (Oracle OEL). Those distros can still provide the initial point releases, but will have to do all the work to figure out backports for bug fixes/CVEs/etc within the release. This is going to be a serious burden for those distros. With regards, Daniel -- |: https://berrange.com -o- https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange :| |: https://libvirt.org -o- https://fstop138.berrange.com :| |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- https://www.instagram.com/dberrange :| _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
