On Tue, May 09, 2023 at 02:21:46PM +0200, Petr Pisar wrote: > V Tue, May 09, 2023 at 12:31:54PM +0800, Jens-Ulrik Petersen napsal(a): > > I have been thinking about proposing a Change to Fedora 39, > > which would disable yum modular repos by default in installs. > > I thought I would float the idea here first. > > > > I suspect the vast majority of Fedora users don't use > > the modular repos > > Probably. But I don't know. We will know from countme statistics after we > disable them. > > >, so I don't see the point of enabling > > them by default anymore. Does this make sense? > > > That makes sense. > > > I know dnf5 is coming with performance improvements > > but I still think turning off the modular repos would speed up dnf > > and save users a lot of time. > > > How much is a lot of time? > > I measured cached "dnf upgrade" (i.e. DNF4) on rawhide without and with the modular > repository 5 times and the times are 1.022 vs. 1.090 seconds. I.e. 6.2% speedup. > > Then I removed caches and looked at download times. I again did 5 tries, but > the variance in dowload times reported by DNF was significantly useless. So > I can only say that a size of the transmitted data is 71.0 MB for nonmodular > repository and 1.6 MB modular repository. However, even this comparison is not > fair as a different compression algorithm is used. Those results will depend a lot on the network. (I *did* say "spotty network" in my original message.) At home I have the problem that most dnf download operations are OK, but every once in a while I get a slow connection (I don't know if it's a question of a different mirror, or just some temporary congestion, etc.) So doing each extra metadata download increase the chances of hitting a bad connection. This doesn't scale proportionally to the size of the downloads, but rather is some complex function that grows with the number of downloads and their sizes. Another case is network with large latency: even if the data is fresh, just checking if it needs to be re-downloaded takes some time that grows with the number of repos. (FWIW, I did some measurements when writing this, and essentially the standard deviation of the download time is larger than the download time on this machine, so I'm not posting those meaningless numbers.) Zbyszek _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
